Who would believe Jaime made over 450

[Greg@RET]

Lol, one more pull left...

[BISKIT]

I am afraid....


I believe it, but I am still afraid.


For all of our sake, please make sure he has enough fuel left, cus I already know he will get throttle happy, miss a shift and grenade the damn thing.

[Greg@RET]

I have a motor on the stand I could sale him :angel:

[BISKIT]

Again, for all of our sakes, don't do it.

I am not kidding when I say this. He will kill himself, or the car or both.

That boy needs suspension and tires before he needs any more ponies.

[OttoCobra]

Congrats. :enorbit3:

[Greg@RET]

I agree.... with no tires it will just go slower. He needs a Vortech BOV, sale him one. The Bosch keep surging.

[Ogbatman]

Again, for all of our sakes, don't do it.

I am not kidding when I say this. He will kill himself, or the car or both.

That boy needs suspension and tires before he needs any more ponies.

Wait he hasnt done anything suspension wise?...Thats crazy..:donny:

I remember when I first got my S/C I knew I had to do something quick or I would end up n a wall...:laugh:

[Blanco32v]

what did he do different?

[Martini]

what did he do different?

he had more money in his wallet this time.

[Greg@RET]

A good tune... :angel: I think its a combo of a few things. Alt, bypass valve, and possible a leak?

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/ret_junior/ret/Jaime.jpg

---------- Post added 01-07-2010 at 02:04 PM ----------

he had more money in his wallet this time.

Exactly :angel:

[Martini]

greg maybe you can convince him to stop being a dyno queen and get the car on a solid tire and suspension. he listens to you.

[1218shelby]

greg maybe you can convince him to stop being a dyno queen and get the car on a solid tire and suspension. he listens to you.



me and Greg are working on that already.. :look:

[V3NOM3S]

congrats on the new numbers.

[Enorbit3]

congrats jaime...:cheers: must be nice living at home

hopefully you can hit 7's now :look:

[RedRyder]

Congrats, Jaime!

*goes out and switches 50 shot jets for 75*

[BISKIT]

I agree.... with no tires it will just go slower. He needs a Vortech BOV, sale him one. The Bosch keep surging.

Amen.

The bosch BOV's are junk.

Jaime, give me a call and let's get your mechanicals squared away so Greg can do his thing and you can actually get the power to the ground safely and properly.

And for the others, ANY car can make more power, it is just a question of timing and air/fuel mixture.

I know of plenty of cars with Jaime's setup that put out high 4's and one or two that even broke 500, but they didn't last long.

Greg (like any good tuner) makes the most power a setup can make, but the keyword is SAFELY. Now if you are a crazy mofo that just doesn't care, sure, per your instruction he will push the car to it's limits and beyond, but you are on borrowed time.

[BISKIT]

congrats jaime...:cheers: must be nice living at home

hopefully you can hit 7's now :look:

Again.

He could have broken 7's with his previous tune. As long as he ignores his tires/suspension and overall driver mod, it ain't gonna happen.

Sorry if that is a coke bottle worth of piss in your cheerios, but I would rather slap you across the face with reality instead of petting your head with lies while slipping hundos out of your pocket.

[06silverbullet]

Again.

He could have broken 7's with his previous tune. As long as he ignores his tires/suspension and overall driver mod, it ain't gonna happen.

Sorry if that is a coke bottle worth of piss in your cheerios, but I would rather slap you across the face with reality instead of petting your head with lies while slipping hundos out of your pocket.


ah you make it sounds so nasty then so good at the end

[1218shelby]

i dont really abuse my car. Many people said my clutch would give out fast, but its still running great. I dont really push it..just when need to.. :jaime:

[1218shelby]

congrats jaime...:cheers: must be nice living at home

hopefully you can hit 7's now :look:

i see wat u did there...

[BondoSHO]

Maybe he can beat a stock 4v now :look:. Congrats Jaime. Get some suspension, wheel, tire and brakes NOW!

[Enorbit3]

i did also say congrats on the new #'s...what about that part? :look:

[RedRyder]

Once Jaime gets real tires and a proper suspension, he is gonna be pretty hard to beat. Dammit. This is gonna start getting a wee bit expensive.

[CEE1NG_RED]

Fix.t :look:

Hahaaha!

What's your set up Jaime?? :asthanos:

[Ogbatman]

Hahaaha!

What's your set up Jaime?? :asthanos:

Paxton on a stock 3v.

[1218shelby]

thanks guys.. :cheers: i wasn't really able to feel the difference since Gregs shop is 2 blocks away from work. :sad: but well see tonight when i get off work.

[OttoCobra]

thanks guys.. :cheers: i wasn't really able to feel the difference since Gregs shop is 2 blocks away from work. :sad: but well see tonight when i get off work.

Take it easy! :burnout:

I'm happy for you Jaime. :jaime:

[grumps91GT]

Congrats Jaime :cheers:

[error404]

nice! Gotta help represent the boosted 3v's :D

[1218shelby]

nice! Gotta help represent the boosted 3v's :D



all you need to do now is take pics of the Shelby.. :angel:

[BondoSHO]

all you need to do now is take pics of the Shelby.. :angel:

After you get all the supporting mods first :nod:

[1218shelby]

After you get all the supporting mods first :nod:


:aaron: i want pics of the car not what it has in it..

---------- Post added 01-08-2010 at 09:40 AM ----------

i did also say congrats on the new #'s...what about that part? :look:



thanks man..and Happy Bday.. :cheers:

[OttoCobra]

:aaron: i want pics of the car not what it has in it..[COLOR="Silver"]


I like keeping the scope of the OttoCobra's mods "stealth."

I think you're doing the right thing!

BTW: You did do an exhaust upgrade of some sort didn't you? ...I lost track of your mods. :whoknows:

[BondoSHO]

:aaron: i want pics of the car not what it has in it..

---------- Post added 01-08-2010 at 09:40 AM ----------





thanks man..and Happy Bday.. :cheers:

But with fat rear tires, big brakes, etc, it'll look like a n/a 4v killer :look:

[1218shelby]

I like keeping the scope of the OttoCobra's mods "stealth."

I think you're doing the right thing!

BTW: You did do an exhaust upgrade of some sort didn't you? ...I lost track of your mods. :whoknows:



my car is stock except for the novi and gears.. :aaron:

[Blanco32v]

My car is BONE stock.....

[1218shelby]

i almost lost it tonight..:sad: :look:

[vtec wht]

i almost lost it tonight..:sad: :look:

what does that mean?

[1218shelby]

it went sideways on 3rd going bout 80 or so.. :look:

[V3NOM3S]

it went sideways on 3rd going bout 80 or so.. :look:

I'm glad I was a car length in front of you.....:asswave:

[vtec wht]

fuck I now the feeling...but I just put in the wrong gear like an idiot! anyways man get yourself some 555R's on your whip mang! 3 more months and I'll be able to meet up with you guys again!

[1218shelby]

I'm glad I was a car length in front of you.....:asswave:


what are you talking bout? :look:

[BondoSHO]

what are you talking bout? :look:

He spent less and has a faster car :look:

[1218shelby]

He spent less and has a faster car :look:



:mad: Sean, you are mean..

[Nicksbluestang]

He spent less and has a faster car :look:

You can't compare a 4v to a 3v...

[BondoSHO]

You can't compare a 4v to a 3v...

I forgot, because it's 4v>3v :nod:

[LXS]

I forgot, because it's 4v>3v :nod:


:steve: :hi5: :nod: :cheers:

[RedRyder]

:lurk:

[1218shelby]

I forgot, because it's 4v>3v :nod:



you dont even have a mustang so be quiet.. :mad:

[BondoSHO]

you dont even have a mustang so be quiet.. :mad:

But I have the same amount of valves as you :hi5:

[dmark101]

But I have the same amount of valves as you :hi5:
i have more valves than jaime. :lol2:

[grumps91GT]

So the count down begins.......how long will it take for Jaime to blow up his motor?? :look:

[06silverbullet]

I forgot, because it's 4v>3v :nod:

even though 3v put out the same amount of power with 2 less cam shafts and 8 less valves?

[Enorbit3]

even though 3v put out the same amount of power with 2 less cam shafts and 8 less valves?

my stock mach dyno'd 295/317....arent the 3v's in the 275/280 range?

[06silverbullet]

all i know is a stock 4v puts out 305/310 and a stock 3v puts out 300/315

[1EVLPNY]

all i know is a stock 4v puts out 305/310 and a stock 3v puts out 300/315

Those are the 96-98 4V's that put out 305/300. The 99-01 Cobras and 03-04 Machs put out 305/320. So its still 4V > 3V :tongue:

[grumps91GT]

all i know is a stock 4v puts out 305/310 and a stock 3v puts out 300/315

Depends which type of 4V.......

and those numbers are at flywheel and rated by Ford. Not to mention the AT vs MT factor and the type of dyno used.

Edit:

The original dicussion was SC 4V vs Jaime's SC 3V

[06silverbullet]

Those are the 96-98 4V's that put out 305/300. The 99-01 Cobras and 03-04 Machs put out 305/320. So its still 4V > 3V :tongue:

oh ok makes sence. oooh 5 pounds of tq whoopie and if you put a shaker on a 3v i'm pretty sure it'd put out the same if not better numbers then the 4v mach.

not to change the subject but who wants to start a bet on how long jaime's car will stay running at over 450hp?

[1EVLPNY]

Depends which type of 4V.......

and those numbers are at flywheel and rated by Ford. Not to mention the AT vs MT factor and the type of dyno used.

Edit:

The original dicussion was SC 4V vs Jaime's SC 3V

We don't even need to compare a SC 4V to Jaime SC 3V. A regular 3V GT with a Whipple makes 470-480rwhp and in some cases even 500 at the fraction of the price of a boosted Shelby GT.

[06silverbullet]

We don't even need to compare a SC 4V to Jaime SC 3V. A regular 3V GT with a Whipple makes 470-480rwhp and in some cases even 500 at the fraction of the price of a boosted Shelby GT.

why would there be a cost difference between the two? unless you mean installing it by a speed shop vs taking it to shelby shop

[LXS]

why would there be a cost difference between the two? unless you mean installing it by a speed shop vs taking it to shelby shop


He's talking about the price of a regular GT, it's what, around $10-15K LESS then a Shelby GT, then not to mention the price of a blower PLUS installation on a Shelby GT, etc...

[1EVLPNY]

He's talking about the price of a regular GT, it's what, around $10-15K LESS then a Shelby GT, then not to mention the price of a blower PLUS installation on a Shelby GT, etc...

Exactly. :nod:

[06silverbullet]

well shit i rather buy a stock gt and spend 15k in the engine...mmmm blower + methanol + cams + forged internals + smaller pulley + valves springs ported heads

[LXS]

well shit i rather buy a stock gt and spend 15k in the engine...mmmm blower + methanol + cams + forged internals + smaller pulley + valves springs ported heads

Don't forget the cost of a GOOD tune, plus...oh what am I saying?? 15k isn't gonna cover all of that!! Besides, what do you need methenol for? You'll only be pushing around 500hp, definately no need for it at that power level......unless you plan on going with a half assed tune and NEED methanol to keep your 500hp motor from blowing up.

[Nicksbluestang]

well shit i rather buy a stock gt and spend 15k in the engine...mmmm blower + methanol + cams + forged internals + smaller pulley + valves springs ported heads

For teh price of a regular GT + $15k you can pick up a gt-500

---------- Post added 01-10-2010 at 07:49 PM ----------

oh ok makes sence. oooh 5 pounds of tq whoopie and if you put a shaker on a 3v i'm pretty sure it'd put out the same if not better numbers then the 4v mach.

not to change the subject but who wants to start a bet on how long jaime's car will stay running at over 450hp?

LOLwut?

---------- Post added 01-10-2010 at 07:50 PM ----------

oh ok makes sence. oooh 5 pounds of tq whoopie and if you put a shaker on a 3v i'm pretty sure it'd put out the same if not better numbers then the 4v mach.

not to change the subject but who wants to start a bet on how long jaime's car will stay running at over 450hp?

His car is good to go for many years unless he crashes it or if he runs low on oil and doesnt add in any extra.

[06silverbullet]

His car is good to go for many years unless he crashes it or if he runs low on oil and doesnt add in any extra.

not what some folks are saying.

Don't forget the cost of a GOOD tune, plus...oh what am I saying?? 15k isn't gonna cover all of that!! Besides, what do you need methenol for? You'll only be pushing around 500hp, definately no need for it at that power level......unless you plan on going with a half assed tune and NEED methanol to keep your 500hp motor from blowing up.

i like methanol due to the fact that it helps mileage and power cooler intake temps.

[grumps91GT]

I'm not concerned with MPG at the track......so to each his own I guess. :shrug:

[LXS]

i like methanol due to the fact that it helps mileage and power cooler intake temps.


:ugh: So you plan on filling up that one gallon methanol container every few miles you drive for "better mileage?" :laugh:


Methanol is used to help keep motors out of detonation when pushed to the extremes. You don't use for everyday street driving.

[Enorbit3]

all i know is a stock 4v puts out 305/310 and a stock 3v puts out 300/315

the #s u quoted are at the crank and the #s i said i had were at the wheels....some say the 4v's are underrated from the factory :shrug:

[grumps91GT]

This thread is just as bad as watching an episode of Jersey Shore......:laugh:

Fuggitaboutit!!!!!

[06silverbullet]

:ugh: So you plan on filling up that one gallon methanol container every few miles you drive for "better mileage?" :laugh:


Methanol is used to help keep motors out of detonation when pushed to the extremes. You don't use for everyday street driving.

actual thats not all true on of snow's selling points is that i can be used every to improve gas mileage even on a stock na car.

read that off their website

[BondoSHO]

I'm not concerned with MPG at the track......so to each his own I guess. :shrug:

When I was out there at Willow, I was getting 12mpg doing 100+mph :laugh:

Anyway, 3v and 4v have very different powerbands. 3v seems to have a lot of mid range, but not quite the low end grunt of a 2v, while 4v is a revver, and has more top end power than the 2 or 3vs. It's the motor I'd start with if I was road coursing a mustang.

[06silverbullet]

When I was out there at Willow, I was getting 12mpg doing 100+mph :laugh:

i get 25mpg doing 80mph on the freeway

[BondoSHO]

i get 25mpg doing 80mph on the freeway

Yes, but you are in OD (or 5th). I wasn't braking, I was flat out the whole time.

[LXS]

actual thats not all true on of snow's selling points is that i can be used every to improve gas mileage even on a stock na car.

read that off their website


So again, are you gonna be pulling over every couple of miles to refill the one gallon container? I'm not saying what you are stating isn't true, but what you're referring to (better gas mileage) is just a "selling point" to get people to buy their product.

[Leos06gtLL]

my stock mach dyno'd 295/317....arent the 3v's in the 275/280 range?
mine was 291/307 stock with just an intake and you also got those numbers with a borla stinger exhaust.....i was present member ....lol

[BondoSHO]

mine was 291/307 stock with just an intake and you also got those numbers with a borla stinger exhaust.....i was present member ....lol

Your motor is also a full liter bigger.

[Leos06gtLL]

Ok back to Jaime you guys forget that his car does come with some suspension work (full frpp)......bet he can use upper & lower lca's,a ph bar and a brace and BRAKES!!! the "shelby 6s" 6 piston brembo brakes would be sick to keep the SHelby look lol

---------- Post added 01-11-2010 at 12:33 PM ----------

Your motor is also a full liter bigger.
i was talking about my old 3v

[BondoSHO]

i was talking about my old 3v

Ah, ok.

[Enorbit3]

mine was 291/307 stock with just an intake and you also got those numbers with a borla stinger exhaust.....i was present member ....lol

you are correct.

[RedRyder]

3xx/3xx for me on a safe tune. Hoping to bump up another 10-15 with my electric waterpump. :rockon:

[Nicksbluestang]

w00t cant wait to get my meth kit installed so i dont have to worry about wasting massivr amounts of gas going down the 1/8 mile track. :woot: I'll be getting 45 mpg while going WOT at the drag strip. You putos are gonna be crying when you run out of gas half way down the strip.

[RedRyder]

ummm... no.

[LXS]

w00t cant wait to get my meth kit installed so i dont have to worry about wasting massivr amounts of gas going down the 1/8 mile track. :woot: I'll be getting 45 mpg while going WOT at the drag strip. You putos are gonna be crying when you run out of gas half way down the strip.



LMMFAO!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[1218shelby]

Amen.

The bosch BOV's are junk.

Jaime, give me a call and let's get your mechanicals squared away so Greg can do his thing and you can actually get the power to the ground safely and properly.

And for the others, ANY car can make more power, it is just a question of timing and air/fuel mixture.

I know of plenty of cars with Jaime's setup that put out high 4's and one or two that even broke 500, but they didn't last long.

Greg (like any good tuner) makes the most power a setup can make, but the keyword is SAFELY. Now if you are a crazy mofo that just doesn't care, sure, per your instruction he will push the car to it's limits and beyond, but you are on borrowed time.



and why didn't you tell me when i first got the Novi?? could have bought the better one back then.. :look: